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Tue Apr 8, 2008, 7:27 PM
I know it makes me a horrible person, but I can't help but give a teensy, eensy, little chuckle at the million dollar foreclosures in our area. With the exception of one person, the people I worked around (though if you asked them, they'd say my friends and I worked for them) were...complete assholes. Greedy, antisocial (no, I don't mean 'loners' ), nasty assholes. And I like pretty much everyone I meet. Even the weirdos. Especially the weirdos.

You prevented us from having TOILET PAPER in our tiny shack. You refused us electricity for the night shift. You called us up constantly with insults and demands (ie. shovel my walk for me), though we worked security for a company (ie. NOT YOU). (By the way, now we look after your kids, and hopefully help them save themselves from your lifestyle of selfish, manipulative, and predatory behavior.) We listened to you park and brag to us about how much money you were putting down on a house, and how you would resell the house at three times the price to "losers". We stood amazed as people described your community as "charming" and "respectable" as you insulted our coworkers based on their ethnicity. We read articles from people like you complaining that your suburban mansion in New Orleans flooded, and how you had to *GASP* LIVE IN AN APARTMENT (NO!) for a few months...until someone GAVE you a "so so" mansion for freaking free. No mention of people who died, or who remain homeless, just a torrent of self-pity. So yes, I do very much hope that you have to live in an apartment. Yes, I am pleased that you at least get a natural consequence for your ruthless actions, even though society currently pats you on the back or glamorizes your ME ME ME attitude. My real hope though, is that maybe, just maybe you will take a serious look at your actions and behavior. Maybe, you can turn into a person who sees other people as more than stepping stones. Or maybe you'll continue trying to impress people with 10 bedrooms and other lifeless objects while you use living 'objects' to finance a new mansion. I genuinely hope for the first one though.

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~ESDA06:iconESDA06: Apr 8, 2008, 7:52:21 PM
A possible silver-lining to the potential recession is the American public realizing that saving is more important than spending for your long-term future. Don't buy buy buy, you won't have anything left when times are tough.
Mood: Neutral ~WilsontheElk:iconWilsontheElk: Apr 9, 2008, 2:56:33 AM
You can be a very eye for an eye on some things you know.

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~Uzuri:iconUzuri: Apr 9, 2008, 4:14:45 AM
I wish people would have gotten hit with a clue stick as long time ago -- then we wouldn't have these crappy ginourmous houses.

On the other hand, maybe they'll learn not to be "rich" jerks. I can dream anyway.

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~wadifahtook:iconwadifahtook: Apr 9, 2008, 11:55:17 AM
Aye, though the gated communities, such as the ones I worked in, have different layers working within them then the ones working within the general public. So, for the general public, bringing back classes such as the ones our parents probably had (ie. classes on how to balance checkbooks, mandatory classes on budgeting and spending, classes on basic lifeskills like cooking) might at least help people learn how to save. Alot of people genuinely don't seem to know how to save money, and are surprised to learn how much, say, a daily muffin and coffee end up costing them.

It really upsets me to read an article almost daily on how every American needs to do their part, dip into their savings, and pour their money into the stores. That's nice and all, but when your options for stores are Wal-mart and Target, you are only giving money to a tiny percentage of people and possible businesses out there. That, and there's nothing to catch many people within our society when they hit a rainy day. If you want your people to spend money, you need to have something in place to help them when they run out.
But yes, I definitely have to agree with you that it would be wonderful to have people learn how to manage their money. It's extremely destressing to see people work themselves so deeply into very large debts. Of course, some of these unmanageable debts are from medical bills...but that's another story.

Ugh, I didn't mean to type that much. Sorry for the dribble!
~wadifahtook:iconwadifahtook: Apr 9, 2008, 12:11:39 PM
Well, technically if I wanted to have an eye for an eye, I would cause them a great deal of financial and emotional distress. But, as we've discussed in the past, you and I differ. You have said that you dislike anything negative happening to anyone. I am of the opinion that when a person acts in a way that harms others, that I am happy when a natural consequence takes place as it is a chance for them to look at their behavior, and change their ways. Thus, allowing them to lead a more aware and fulfilling life, and allowing others to no longer be abused by said individuals. You are definitely allowed your opinion, but I really cannot agree on any level. I can actually look back and be glad about negative experiences I have had, as they have helped me look at myself, and change at least some of my flaws.

Though, I have also heard you say that a person who is robbed is at fault for not taking protective measures (Or at least, that is what I got out of your statements, and that is a commonly held opinion). I disagree, as a person being mugged/robbed/raped/scammed, etc. did not make a conscious decision to have that happen, while the robber/mugger/raper/scammer, did.

So, I do not expect us to see eye to eye on this one.
~WilsontheElk:iconWilsontheElk: Apr 9, 2008, 12:25:45 PM
I never said someone can't protect themselves, you were setting up a strawman there. I never said that I don't want anything to happen to anyone ever. I just wont wish it on someone and revel in it when it happens. I find that attitude somewhat uncomfortable. I am not on their side though. I just am not going the "Heh heh heh, rich jerks are going to poorer" root as in the end how bad and good they were could be just you opinion.

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~WilsontheElk:iconWilsontheElk: Apr 9, 2008, 12:27:36 PM
Plus you seem to be targeting them just because they are rich. I have just realize that. Poor guys.

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~wadifahtook:iconwadifahtook: Apr 9, 2008, 12:37:10 PM
Aye, the houses themselves are a problem. Due to the current issues within the housing market, there are communities of 100s of finished and unfinished houses sitting there, no longer being worked on or moved into. They tore down a huge ammount of rural land to build them, and the houses are just sitting there empty. I don't know what to describe our culture as anything but materialistic, fake, and greedy at the momment, but I always get yelled at when I do. So, I'll start calling it the flawless, sunshine culture. Nothing but gumdrops and roses here baby.

(At least I know these things won't last very long. We saw how crappily they were put up...mismatched parts out of huge boxes...I'm not even kidding. So, we weren't surprised to start reading articles from residents complaining that their houses are already falling apart. Hmm, what's that you say? The housing companies aren't responding to your complaints about your homes? They apparently only wanted your money? Huh, 'magine that.)

And definitely hope for that! Some people actually do work to change themselves, and become genuinely kinder people, which feels like a million bucks to me.
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